User talk:DavandeSea

Welcome

Welcome to CPDL! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! Claude (talk) 16:40, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Six New Part-Songs Dedicated to the Royal Albert Hall Choral Society (Charles Gounod)

Hello David,

I have created a new publication page to encompass the two volumes. I will put the works list for each volume there.

(More later when I have time.) Thanks for the transcriptions! — Barry Johnston (talk) 20:58, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

William Horsley compositions

Don't you consider it a tad OCD to create 6 subdivisions by voice for 11 items on a page which is supposed to be listed alphabetically? I know I do.Cjshawcj (talk) 04:28, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

If an alphabetization is important for 11 items, a sortable list format would be the way to keep everyone happy. Richard Mix (talk) 02:19, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Adding lyrics

On Three little kittens (George Augustus Veazie) you haven't added (a link to) lyrics. Since you have forbidden to convert any of your scores to an MXL format (which is my way to extract lyrics), you are the one able to do it ;-) Claude T (talk) 07:20, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi Claude, I don't see a problem with using MXL for yourself to extract a text, as opposed to posting the MXL file. Ultimately of course the task of filling in the text field falls on the one willing to do it ;-) Richard Mix (talk) 01:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

This entry of Three Little Kittens under Veazie should be deleted, for it is by Vicars and appears there, with lyrics. It inadvertently got added to Veazie when creating Vicars as a a new composer, but the CPDL site did a "technical difficulty" and, when refreshing the screen, entered it without creating the new composer page. So if this could be corrected, it'd be great.DavandeSea (talk) 03:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Richard: when an editor puts its PDF as read-only, it cannot be transcribed to XML anymore. Apart from that, why don't you think useful to allow users to read words and/or translations of the music you edit?

David, I've removed the erroneous/superfluous page. Claude T (talk) 08:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Claude, thank you for removing the errant page.

Inclusion of the text/lyrics is beneficial. A common weakness of the wiki, though, is treatment of text merely as song lyrics—the lack of respect given to poetry/poet as art/artist in their own right. Few attempt to research the text as an art form and the wiki format is not conducive to presentation as such. I enter texts on CPDL with some modicum of scholarship, and almost all of my editions include the poem as best as could reasonably researched, suggesting how it might appear in a printed concert program. And, thank you again.DavandeSea (talk) 16:20, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi David (and the rest), I definitely agree with you about the comparative "lack of respect" given to poetry and poets on this site, though I would see it as lack of proper attribution. I very much appreciate your careful detail to the words. The same situation occurs with translators; many translations here are not attributed at all! The need is for reform of the whole Lyrics-Lyricist-Translator system (see my recommendations here – a little out of date). I am chipping away at this problem as I have time (see this page in progress). Since not all writers of lyrics are poets, I prefer to call all people who write words "authors". I am increasingly certain that texts need to be only in one place, and that should be on Text pages, not Work pages. — Barry Johnston (talk) 18:46, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Pages missing Music files

Hi David, I have come across pages that seem incomplete:

1. The shades of night around us steal (J. Varley Roberts). Page created by you in November 2023. Are you still working on the page?
2. Wassail Song (Ralph Vaughan Williams). Page last edited by you in December 2023, but other editors were involved earlier. Not sure what to do.

Thanks for your help! — Barry Johnston (talk) 19:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)