Talk:Germany (Louis Bourgeois)

Name change to Genevan 42 (Louis Bourgeois)

Given the updated information, should this page be renamed to reflect the tune name better? I originally only intended this page to be for the Harmonia Sacra arrangement, but this can be modified. - A. J. Higgins (talk) 00:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I think this is the proper name for this page, since the editions of this tune discussed on this page would probably be of interest mostly to the shape-note crowd, and they would expect to see the name first used in the shape-note literature. Especially since the other interest groups already have pages of their own – Comfort, comfort, ye my people (Louis Bourgeois) and Psalm 42 Ainsi qu'on oit le cerf (Claude Goudimel), and there are links between all these. — Barry Johnston (talk) 03:20, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Attribution for "Holy Ghost, dispel"

I believe Johann Christian Jacobi translated the hymn. - A. J. Higgins (talk) 22:15, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Good! Makes sense, too. Thanks! — Barry Johnston (talk) 00:31, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

But more difficult than I thought; I finally found Lobwasser's book, then discovered several other, very different German versions. I assume Jacobi translated Lobwasser? — Barry Johnston (talk) 01:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the hymns "Wie nach einem Wasserquelle" by Lobwasser and "O Du allersüßte Freude" by Gerhardt are different. The former is a translation of Psalm 42. Jacobi translated the latter (this one was also translated as "O, Thou sweetest source of Gladness" in a 1772 Psalmodia Germanica, different from the 1904 translation of the same name). Is there a scan you can share of the Lobwasser source? I'd like to see the hymns associated with this text. It seems this tune has had quite the convoluted history! Thanks. - A. J. Higgins (talk) 02:03, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, it seems that Psalmodia Germanica is by Jacobi, and that his edition was originally titled "O, thou sweetest source of Gladness". From what I can gather, Hymnary attributes Toplady of altering the text. - A. J. Higgins (talk) 02:11, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Please e-mail me (contact on my talk page) and I can send you scans of Lobwasser. It seems you have legitimate concerns; I will be able to get back to this late tomorrow. Thanks again. — Barry Johnston (talk) 03:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)