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:Hi Claude, very good! The headers ("Seasonal music") can also be tweaked to receive a translation; I'm leaving in one hour for a week-long trip; when I'm back I'll have a look at it. Regarding the left menu, from items "Main page" to "Help", they are generated by an extension introduced by Max some time ago; I'm not sure how to add translations in this case. Perhaps the extension's documentation has something related to it. Cordialement, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 18:30, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
:Hi Claude, very good! The headers ("Seasonal music") can also be tweaked to receive a translation; I'm leaving in one hour for a week-long trip; when I'm back I'll have a look at it. Regarding the left menu, from items "Main page" to "Help", they are generated by an extension introduced by Max some time ago; I'm not sure how to add translations in this case. Perhaps the extension's documentation has something related to it. Cordialement, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[File:Email.gif|link=User talk:Carlos]] 18:30, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you Carlos, for your help! -Huub (Hdl)

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Reply to your question about Esperanto word division

See User_talk:Esperanto41. Esperanto41 20:34, 8 January 2013


Carlos, a rather belated thank you for pointing out {{Top}}, {{Middle}} and {{Bottom}}. Infinitely easier than the code, which I could never remember! I've taken on inserting it whenever I come upon a table in the old format, since I'm sure others will find it as useful as I do when they spot it. Jamesgibb (talk) 16:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Your're welcome! That reminded me that I need to add some documentation to these templates, will do it now :) Regards, —Carlos (talk) 16:43, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Translate extension

Hello, I see that this is a multilingual wiki. Have you considered using the Translate extension, which allows to easily make your MediaWiki multilingual? It makes you save enormous amounts of time which otherwise is wasted on templates wizardry, manual synchronisation of pages and so on, scarying off most translators; and offers many other aid to efficient translation. Now it's also available in handy tarball bundles. The page explains how to get help and more information, and there is extensive documentation; asking on #mediawiki-i18n @ freenode is probably your best chance for immediate assistance if needed. Thanks, Nemo 23:48, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Holy Mary Mother of God

Hi Carlos I have submitted a new short composition Holy Mary Mother of God for SAB choir keyboard and flute

Just wondering when it is going to be posted on CPDL

thanks so much

Daniele Colla 20:13, 19 January 2013

Done! —Carlos (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

New Swedish composer

Helo Carlos

You have helped me before. I want to add scores of a Swedish composer that is not in the composers list. His name is Knut Håkanson.

Per-Anders Aglert 10:03, 27 January 2013

Done! —Carlos (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2013 (UTC)


Hi, Carlos. Thanks for the welcome. I've used CPDL quite a bit over the last few years and want to contribute back to it as I am able. Thanks, too, for clarifying my posting of a literal translation. (I'm still learning wiki conventions.)

Thanks and update to Batten work

Carlos -- thanks for your note welcoming me back to Choral Wiki! It prompted me to look and see what was the first thing I uploaded. Then I noticed my correction for Batten's "Haste Thee, O God" was in a hard-to-use format. These days I can easily make a PDF, so I did that and uploaded it. That also spells the composer's name correctly! I think I entered the information properly to create a new edition and I separately uploaded the PDF under the same name. But you or another editor will probably need to review and make sure everything is correct. Cheers, chris Christopherjhoh (talk) 13:46, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Thou Knowest, Lord, the Secrets of Our Hearts, Z.58b

Hello Carlos, yes, you are right: I (christoph Lahme) am the Editor. Z.58b is not the 'opus-number' for all of those settings of "Thou knowest", but only for that revised first setting I contributed. Moreover it's part of the Funeral Sentences (1672, 1677), but not composed for the funeral of Queen Mary. Thanks.--Christophero Manco (talk) 22:28, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Jean Gilles Requiem

Hello Carlos,

Thanks for your welcome, as you know i am new as cpdl user, and slowly learning howto etc.

The Jean Gilles Requiem is found on a french website, but it was very hard to trace and i can't find the original location anymore. Also googling ( by three separate persons ) did not give results.

The cpdl is much used by me as i am making rehearsal files for several choires i participate. Now I am unemployed and have some sparetime to upload a number of midi files I created the last years.

I will try to update my personal page, it seems that my previous attempt was not OK.

with regards, Roel

Callcott's "A Beauteous ..."


Rather belatedly I have uploaded an earlier version of this work with the original, lewd, lyrics. Would you be kind enough to change the title to "A beauteous fair has pierced my heart". Many thanks Jgoodliffe (talk) 00:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Done. Nice to have the two editions for comparison, thanks! —Carlos (talk) 02:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)


C’est avec plaisir. Cordialement --Archimatth (talk) 13:03, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Musica Colonial page


You will see that I have jazzed up this page, adding a bit of 17th century glamour. I have also uploaded images of Morales and Juana Ines de la Cruz (they are both public domain). Feel free to do any tidying up you think is appropriate (e.g. dividing the list of composers into columns - I could not work out how to do this).

Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 11:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan, the page looks very nice now! I've made the composers list into columns as you suggested. —Carlos (talk) 15:02, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

help, please

Dear Carlos, I have just founded a new page for Uherek Milan, but I did something wrong, because first name is Milan and I cannot repair it now. Could you please help me? Thanks, Jan Pallas

Hi Jan, his name was corrected. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 23:42, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, that was fast!!! Thank you very much, I will be more cautious next time. Jan

Hi, Carlos, I'll try. There are folksongs most in Moravia and Slovakia, which cannot be arranged too much modern. And Mr. Uherek was from Moravia and he felt how they should be sung and therefore he made them in somewhat simple harmony, but what is most important for these songs is agogics. And that cannot be heard from computer-made MIDI. Maybe some of Moravian or Slovak songs could be found on youtube. I am not much good in English, hope you understand me. Best regards, Jan

Qual dolcezza giamai

Hi Carlos Thank you for your welcoming message. It is a pleasure to contribute to this excellent website. I am working on further scores by Willaert. Best wishes, Hans

Duron's "O vos omnes"

Carlos would you please add this to the "O vos omnes" page. I cannot work out how to do this. Thanks. Jgoodliffe (talk) 09:46, 20 April 2013 (UTC) Carlos. You can ignore this: I wokred out how to do it. Jgoodliffe (talk) 12:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

New editor on Musica Colonial site


You will see that Juan Pablo Pira Martinez from Guatemala asked me to upload a new work for him. There is also a new account in his name. Jonathang (talk) 22:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan, thank you for taking care of this; good to know that there is a new volunteer for the Musica Colonial project. —Carlos (talk) 14:16, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect composer attribution

Hello! I commented in the talk page of a misattributed work several months ago on fixing the issue, but it seems to have been lost in the crowd. Would you mind taking a look at it? Link here. Thanks! Wboyle (talk) 05:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Walker, thanks for pointing me to that page. The misattribution is confirmed by the Grove Dictionary. I've made the necessary changes. —Carlos (talk) 14:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


Sorry about that, Carlos. I have been assuming (wrongly) that the only page likely to link was the composer page, where I've been bypassing the redirect page fairly consistently, I think. In future, I'll do a proper check on "What links here" (which I had failed to spot!) and make any other changes necessary. I'm really just doing it for tidyness, but if you think that there are potential risks involved that I'm unaware of, let me know.

By the way, I think the solution you came up with for Pange lingua/Tantum ergo was elegant and should satisfy everyone. (Perhaps that's a forlorn hope!) Jamesgibb (talk) 18:08, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Vivo ego dicit Dominus (Ludwig Senfl)

Carlos, there appear to be two separate editions of this, one with Vivi for Vivo, but both with the same number. I've tried tidying it, but seem to be making a mess of it, since what I expected to happen when I moved a page, didn't happen! Much safer therefore for me to leave it to the experts. (I've inadvertently created a page called Vivi ego dicit Dominus temp (Ludwig Senfl) but haven't deleted it, lest I make matters worse!

Thanks very much for completing the English translation of Veni sponsa Christi, by the way. I got interrupted halfway through and, by the time I got back to it, you had already done it. Jamesgibb (talk) 11:30, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi James, thanks for catching this; the "Vivi" page was indeed a duplicate of the other one, so I deleted it. Usually I keep the older page, but these two were posted only two days apart, and the one with the correct title was also more complete, so it was kept. If you tried to rename Vivi ego dicit Dominus to Vivo ego dicit Dominus, you probably saw a warning message informing that the page with the new title already existed, and asking if it should be deleted first. This is usually done only when we wish to merge both page histories, otherwise it's better not to continue :) Regards, —Carlos (talk) 16:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

O magnum mysterium - Pedro de Cristo

Brian Marble has contacted me about his recently uploaded edition, where the file links don't work. I've checked whether the files have actually been uploaded, and they have and the names on the Works page look correct. I suspect that he had made an error while creating the edition page and hasn't copied across the file locations correctly.

It's probably simple to correct, but I can't see a way to do it without creating a new edition page, which is obviously to be avoided. Any suggestions as to how to repair the links, Carlos? Jamesgibb (talk) 06:21, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

It was just a typo: he wrote Christo for Cristo. The links are working now. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 06:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Well spotted, Carlos. I'll let him know. Jamesgibb (talk) 10:35, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Fixing a problem with a PDF

Hi, I just noticed I made a mistake in a score I uploaded.

How do I go about removing it and uploading a fixed version (and if possible without having it display that 'withdrawn at the request of the editor' message)?

Thanks, Cathal


1. Sorry about {{Text}}. I'll make sure to handle it correctly in future. But what does it do, since I've not seen it before?
2. Alessandro Scarlatti - much improved. Wish I'd thought of it myself!
3. I've been careful to check what links here before deleting any redundant pages. However, I've noticed that some links remain (e.g. Editions 205xx) even though, when I check them, the updated file(page) name is displayed, rather than that of the one I am considering deleting. (I don't delete in those circumstances. Is it because the pages concerned don't take account of redirects automatically?
Jamesgibb (talk) 09:34, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

  1. No problem! Besides adding a header to the text (with a banner when available) the Text template is useful to inform us that that page actually contains text in that language. Pages with {{Text|English}} will be categorized in English texts, and so on. There is a maintenance page ChoralWiki:Score pages without Text templates that lists works lacking one of the appropriate Text templates.
  2. Thanks; that layout may be kept for a while, until one of the columns becomes too large.
  3. You're right: most of the ChoralWiki:xxxx pages that continue linking to moved pages are in fact dynamic pages that have not updated themselves yet; it takes a couple of hours sometimes. You don't need to worry with these links and may delete the redirect.

Carlos (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Merging accounts

Hi Carlos,

Havent been on here in a while but saw a message from you about two accts, JosephStephens and Stephensmusic. Do what ever you need to do to simplify things and merge them into one. Just let me know what you decide to do. You may have already done this. thanks JGS

Rationalising the text pages

Carlos, I've now put some thoughts up on the the administrators' forum and let other administrators know via their emails or discussion pages. (I'm probably telling you something you've already noticed!) Jamesgibb (talk) 11:21, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Going to participate soon. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 03:36, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Ars subtilior editions

Carlos, there are three works uploaded under this title which appear to be on an external site. However, none of the works pages have works numbers or links to the external site. I can't see a way to correct this, but you may be able to. (I don't think it's that urgent.) Jamesgibb (talk) 18:04, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi James, thanks for reminding me of this. I had already bookmarked this user but forgot to write him regarding these issues. He forgot to fill in the form:Add work for each of his submissions. Best, —Carlos (talk) 04:00, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

La la maître Pierre

Hi Carlos, I've added a "misattributed" to Susato's Maistre Pierre. Is it possible you mistook the mention "Susato" as meaning the composer, while Sabine just intended it as a mention of the editor? I've got the facsimile of the 11th book here, and it clearly states Jacob Clemens non Papa as a composer. If so, could you merge both pages? Cordially, Jkelecom (talk) 10:39, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Joachim, it was Bobnotts who renamed that page, probably misled by the editor information added by Sabine in her edition (as you correctly noted). The attribution was corrected and the works merged in the original page. Please note that the title with the original spelling "Piere" is widely unknown, returning only a handful of results in Google [1]; that's why the modern spelling was chosen instead. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 13:09, 18 July 2013 (UTC)


Thanks Carlos. I don't mind. Wverkaik (talk) 09:47, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Correcting CPDL #30003 and/or #30004

Carlos, I write to ask for assistance on my CPDL page to correct

  1. 30003 'All That I Ask' (string accompaniment).

I recall having hit the send twice on this item and created (I believe)

  1. 30003 & 30004--each of which is basically the same.

The upshot is this--the link to the pdf of the score is dead or broken. How may I resolve this?

Thank you for your assistance again.

Crys Armbrust (talk) 01:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I've corrected the file name this way :




Carlos, could you see if that kind of conversion can be included in the AddWork form?
Thanks in advance. Claude (talk) 07:09, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Claude, thanks for taking care of this already. I'll see with Max if this conversion can be rendered automatic.
On a related subject, I'm afraid that Vittorio Giannini's work may be still under copyright. Mr. Armbrust, could you please check this?
Regards, —Carlos (talk) 10:53, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Removal request

Hi Carlos, a few month ago you asked me if I want to delete my entire compositions. I answered your questions on the side you wrote to me. Please delete all my composition, the pdf and other files. Could you please inform me when it's done (alexander.schmitt.3(at)googlemail.com) Thanks a lot, greetings. AlexanderSchmitt 05:22, 10 September 2013

Done. —Carlos (talk) 14:07, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Ferdinand di Lasso (II)

Carlos, not urgent, but I've noticed that this composer is being sorted on ( in the composer list, rather than L. It's beyond my competence to correct it, so when you have a moment, perhaps you could have a look. Jamesgibb (talk) 14:05, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi James. At the bottom of the page, I've set the DEFAULTSORT as follows:
{{DEFAULTSORT:Lasso, Ferdinand di (II)}}
See Template:NameSorter. – Chucktalk Giffen 00:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Chuck, thank you for taking care of it for me! —Carlos (talk) 03:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Brian Russell files

Hello! I recently discovered a fairly large stash of apparently unuploaded Brian Russell files, and I'm not entirely sure what exactly should be done with them. I've been talking with Claude T about the files over on his talk page, and we were wondering if you might have any input (I don't know if you saw his shout-out or not). ~ Wboyle (talk) 10:10, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me, Walker! Have just replied there. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 02:45, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


Hi Carlos, do you speak italian? How can I answer to you and to others people that write to my on talk page? Like you say, I'm the same nick Valla79 (I've forgotten the nick!) so you can join togheter the nick so I'll use just one. Let me know.

Grazie Fabio

Please delete this file

Hi Carlos,

I was contacted by the manager of a composer whose work I uploaded here. This is the URL: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/File:Tinggal_Sertaku_(Pohan).pdf

Would you please delete this file. I have tried to do it myself, with no avail. I actually didn't mean to upload it. It was one of my first attempts to upload something on CPDL. My choir got a license to his work, but he obviously didn't want it to go public. The composer objected upon the upload. He wanted it to be deleted.

Thank you.

Regards, Hendra, 14:54, 13 June 2014

Done! —Carlos Email.gif 05:11, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Sortable tables

Dear Carlos,

3 questions; I hope easy ones! 1) I started making a table at Souterliedekens and am puzzled by the behaviour of the incipit field: it lists them in reverse numerical order on the first click, only alphabetizing on the second click. 2) Are the slashes (Psalm 140/141) in the red-linked titles a potential problem? Nested parentheses seem less elegant... 3) how are piped Ps. No.'s handled? Tia! Richard Mix (talk) 05:14, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Richard!
  1. That's strange... for me it seems to work correctly on the first click. If I click on a column for the second time, even if another column has been clicked in between, it then sorts the column in the opposite order. I guess this is standard behaviour.
  2. I would suggest avoiding the slashes in title by keeping only the Vulgata number in it. If I'm not mistaken, that's usually how other works based on the Vulgata give this information in the title. Inside the page, the conversion is already made explicit in the Text & translations section, when {{LinkText}} is used.
  3. To sort columns like this one, we have to resort to a trick: invisible texts are introduced before each visible text, and the sorting is done on the invisible texts. Template {{hs}} is used for this effect.
Regards, —Carlos Email.gif 06:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! 1. So strange I tried it several times over to be sure, but today it works as you describe instead. Settling time perhaps??? 2. A good idea 3. Thanks for doing it already; I'll try to remember the trick. All the best, Richard Mix (talk) 08:57, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Audi e partitura e edicao

Olá caríssimo, estou sim disposto a disponibilizar a partitura e editar uma página da música (como essa) por exemplo, mas estou tento um pouco de dificuldades com os códigos, você poderia me auxiliar nesse início. Tenho bastante experiência na edição da Wikipédia, mas resolvi me mudar para cá. Muito obrigado. Amats (talk) 11:16, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

O Cântico de Maria

Thanks! :-) - Estarei upando outras músicas do compositor ainda hoje, mas antes vou terminar as correções no artigo dele. Uma questão, aqui temos uma predef. para link com o artigo na wikipédia? ou uma "interwiki" como chamamos por lá? Se houver uma lista de predefs a serem usadas pode me passar o endereço? Grato Amats (talk) 20:35, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Olá, há uma lista de predefs em Templates. Para criar um link a um artigo da wikipédia, pode usar a sintaxe [[w:pt:Artigo|Texto que aparece]]. —Carlos Email.gif 21:19, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Hi Carlos. Thanks for the welcome. cpdl.org is a great place for posting my free scores. Hoping they will be a bit of some use for others. By the way: is there any method to read how many downloads are made on the scores? Kind regards, Pascal.

Thank you!

Hi Carlos, Thank you for your welcome note! I'm glad you enjoyed the Magnificat video :). -Susan

Musica Colonial scores


A choral director in Vermont has asked me if I can supply a translation one of the Musica Colonial scores, Nebra's "Rompan los vagos espacios" which he wants to perform. Obviously a translation is needed if it is to be performed in an Anglophone country. My Spanish isn't really up to this. These scores are often very obscure. Do you have any ideas? I realise of course that your native language is Portuguese, rather than Spanish.

Jonathan (talk) 07:41, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan, I can understand Spanish quite well, but as you said, the text of this music is a bit unclear. I'll give it a try, let's see what I can apprehend of it. —Carlos Email.gif 17:30, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Many thanks Carlos! Jonathan (talk) 18:51, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi Jonathan, there you have it! I did my best but some parts don't seem to make much sense even in the original. You may want to ask someone else to revise the translation. If they decide to use the translation as provided by me, please ask them to credit me. Thank you, —Carlos Email.gif 06:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Carlos, many thanks for your help. It looks fine to me and I will follow your request. Jonathan Jonathang (talk) 12:57, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

To Gratiana Dancing and Singing - W Denis Browne

Thanks for picking this one up Carlos. And thanks for creating the new Composer and Title pages for me. I have now uploaded new PDF and Sib7 files which correct a small misprint in the poem which appears inside the coverpage.

Thanks again. PeterH PeterHarris (talk) 11:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Yaroslav versus Yaroslavsky Chant

Hi Carlos. I noticed that you have replaced "Yaroslavsky" with "Yaroslav" while referring to a particular form of Slavonic chant. For the piece in question ("A mercy of peace...") the work is listed as: "Yaroslavsky Chant - for the Liturgy of St. Basil the Great - g (618 KB)"; moreover, in the PDF score itself the source is cited as "Yaroslaskago rospiva" (Ярославскаго распыва). "Yaroslav" is a noun, while "Yaroslavsky" (while sometimes a noun) is an adjective form for "Yaroslav". It's no different than the situation with "Gregory chant" or "Gregorian chant", or "Kiev chant" or "Kievan chant" (in both cases, the second form is correct). Can you cite a reason for your change? I'm totally mystified by this! – Chucktalk Giffen 16:15, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Chuck. I'm aware of the difference in meaning between the two terms; I made extensive searches for both expressions "Yaroslav[sky] chant", and references for both are extremely hard to find on the internet. The only site using "Yaroslavsky chant" is the one from where the CPDL score comes ([2]); all the other results on Google are in fact just references to this same work ([3]). On the other side, "Yaroslav chant" is cited a couple more times on websites directly related to Russian Orthodox music ([4] [5] [6]), and in a book digitized by Google ([7]). So, mine wasn't a completely uninformed decision, even though I cannot affirm that the current form is the most correct one. Grove has no references to this kind of chant, maybe you could help to settle this issue if you happen to have books on this subject at hand. —Carlos Email.gif 17:22, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

category problem

Hi Carlos, Thank you for fixing my "category" problem. I read your reply to my post and I understand what happened and how to avoid this error in the future. -Susan

Localization of Main Page

Hi, Carlos, Many thanks for having moved Seasonal music to a separate page, I was able to generate the translation. Anyway, the two words 'Seasonal music', on top, remain in English. Moreover, unlike all wikis, top part of the left pane also remain not translated :-(( Claude (talk) 18:19, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Claude, very good! The headers ("Seasonal music") can also be tweaked to receive a translation; I'm leaving in one hour for a week-long trip; when I'm back I'll have a look at it. Regarding the left menu, from items "Main page" to "Help", they are generated by an extension introduced by Max some time ago; I'm not sure how to add translations in this case. Perhaps the extension's documentation has something related to it. Cordialement, —Carlos Email.gif 18:30, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you Carlos, for your help! -Huub (Hdl)