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Recently I’ve reported errors in a [[Es ist das Heil uns kommen her, Op. 29, No. 1 (Johannes Brahms)|Brahms score]] and wondered why the template now renders ‘possible’ error(s) identified. I understand Carlos’ reasons for changing the wording–but will someone sometime decide if it’s whether a possible error or not? Above mentioned edition shows ‘real’ errors (wrong notes). Should users report more explicit, say ''could/should'' or ''has to be'' this or that, or even ''definitely wrong?'' It’s bad enough that many scores won’t be revised after adding the error tag … --[[User:Robert Urmann|Robert Urmann]] 08:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 
Recently I’ve reported errors in a [[Es ist das Heil uns kommen her, Op. 29, No. 1 (Johannes Brahms)|Brahms score]] and wondered why the template now renders ‘possible’ error(s) identified. I understand Carlos’ reasons for changing the wording–but will someone sometime decide if it’s whether a possible error or not? Above mentioned edition shows ‘real’ errors (wrong notes). Should users report more explicit, say ''could/should'' or ''has to be'' this or that, or even ''definitely wrong?'' It’s bad enough that many scores won’t be revised after adding the error tag … --[[User:Robert Urmann|Robert Urmann]] 08:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
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:Hi Robert, I sincerely don't know what's the best alternative in this case. More than one contributor has been irritated to discover that their editions had been reported as having "errors" that were in fact just differences between printed editions. So, the text of the template was purposely changed in order not to sound so conclusive. Can you think of a better way to deal with this situation? I'd be glad to hear other suggestions. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 23:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

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RedLink is informative, BlueLink for a nonexistent page is not

I recently clicked on a blue "discuss" link to see a discussion of the score error(s) on a page and was somewhat put off by there being no discussion there at all! A RedLink would have been much more informative to me (and others), informing me that there was no such discussion available and not inviting me to visit a page that doesn't exist; in addition, it might invite a knowledgeable user to provide information on the RedLinked page, thereby turning the link to a useful BlueLink. To me, existence of some RedLinks is not a bad sign at all. What do others think? -- Chucktalk Giffen 13:44, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Chuck, if you have a look in this newly created page you will understand the reason why I made the change to the template: of 194 editions with errors, in only 20 of them (10%) did the person decide to add a comment to the talk page (or no comment at all). In all other 174 cases the error report was added as a parameter to the template itself. In all these, a red link to the talk page was being added without need. I agree that the solution I found may not have been the most appropriate; what do you think of using #ifexist instead to display the link only when something has been added to the talk page? —Carlos [[[:Template:Carlos]] Email.gif] 16:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Carlos, using #ifexist sounds like a good idea. -- Chucktalk Giffen 17:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible errors if not?

Recently I’ve reported errors in a Brahms score and wondered why the template now renders ‘possible’ error(s) identified. I understand Carlos’ reasons for changing the wording–but will someone sometime decide if it’s whether a possible error or not? Above mentioned edition shows ‘real’ errors (wrong notes). Should users report more explicit, say could/should or has to be this or that, or even definitely wrong? It’s bad enough that many scores won’t be revised after adding the error tag … --Robert Urmann 08:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Robert, I sincerely don't know what's the best alternative in this case. More than one contributor has been irritated to discover that their editions had been reported as having "errors" that were in fact just differences between printed editions. So, the text of the template was purposely changed in order not to sound so conclusive. Can you think of a better way to deal with this situation? I'd be glad to hear other suggestions. —Carlos [[[:Template:Carlos]] Email.gif] 23:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)