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:I can't help you with the decision on the actual composer, but whoever he is, he was definitely <b>not</b> called Ioann<i>is</i>, since this is a possessive case marker, which in French would roughly translate as <i>par /de</i> Jean, or <i>by</i> John (or, more accurately, <i>of</i> John).  It is a common occurrence in inflectional languages to mark composer names in the genitive, though no-one would likely consider renaming the English score pages to display Tchaikovsk<i>ago</i> as the composer, would they? [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 21:37, 9 September 2008 (PDT)
:I can't help you with the decision on the actual composer, but whoever he is, he was definitely <b>not</b> called Ioann<i>is</i>, since this is a possessive case marker, which in French would roughly translate as <i>par /de</i> Jean, or <i>by</i> John (or, more accurately, <i>of</i> John).  It is a common occurrence in inflectional languages to mark composer names in the genitive, though no-one would likely consider renaming the English score pages to display Tchaikovsk<i>ago</i> as the composer, would they? [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 21:37, 9 September 2008 (PDT)


::Well, I will rename the composer to Jan van Turnhout (following the Grove's convention). Still acording to the Grove Dictionary, his elder brother Gérard de Turnhout didn't compose anything for 6 voices, while Jan did compose many works for 6 to 8 voices. This work is probably from his ''Sacrarum cantionum … liber primus, 5, 6, 8vv'' (Douai, 1594). —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 20:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I will rename the composer to Jan van Turnhout (following the Grove's convention). Still acording to the Grove Dictionary, his elder brother Gérard de Turnhout didn't compose anything for 6 voices, while Jan did compose many works for 6 to 8 voices. This work is probably from his ''Sacrarum cantionum … liber primus, 5, 6, 8vv'' (Douai, 1594). —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{fullurl:User talk:Carlos}} {{mail}}] 20:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

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Is it possible that this composition be by Jean-Jacques de Turnhout (c.1545-after 1618)? He was probably a very young brother, or son of Gerard van Turnhout. When John asked me to create the composer page, I decided for Gerard because of the coinciding dates of birth/death, but Ioannis is in fact Latin for Jean! -- CarlosTalk 16:12, 3 July 2008 (PDT)

I can't help you with the decision on the actual composer, but whoever he is, he was definitely not called Ioannis, since this is a possessive case marker, which in French would roughly translate as par /de Jean, or by John (or, more accurately, of John). It is a common occurrence in inflectional languages to mark composer names in the genitive, though no-one would likely consider renaming the English score pages to display Tchaikovskago as the composer, would they? joachim 21:37, 9 September 2008 (PDT)
Well, I will rename the composer to Jan van Turnhout (following the Grove's convention). Still acording to the Grove Dictionary, his elder brother Gérard de Turnhout didn't compose anything for 6 voices, while Jan did compose many works for 6 to 8 voices. This work is probably from his Sacrarum cantionum … liber primus, 5, 6, 8vv (Douai, 1594). —Carlos Email.gif 20:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)