Talk:Orlando Gibbons

Why does this page have a cleanup template? Thanks. 06:10, 20 February 2006 Giulia tonelli

Perhaps because the "Short Service" entry was bold-face instead of italicized. Noel Stoutenburg

Communion service

I only have the two movements of the Communion Service in my library so I obviously won't be posting the rest. Anyone else that has them can post the whole service. -Douglas Walczak 14 February 2011.

Doug, what exactly is your source? Grove doenst list a communion service, and I wonder if this is an adaptation... Richard Mix 00:38, 15 February 2011 (CST)

The source is an octavo in a book of bound octavos I purchased on Ebay. It's "Musical Times No. 129" it includes Almighty and Everlasting God, plus the Kyrie and Sanctus. It seems to indicate that the pieces are as set by Gibbons himself, a footnote to the Sanctus even indicates the parallel 5ths in the S-T between measures 4&5 is original was not altered. If anyone should be able to show that these pieces are misattributed, I'll make the necessary changes. Doug 15. February 2011

A look at Tudor Church Music IV reveals that the "Communion Service" is identical with the "Short Service". In the discussion of sources is the following: "The Sanctus commonly attached to the short service has no MS. authority before the time of the Restoration. It is first found in the Windsor MSS in the handwritting of Dr Will. Child, as an extra slip bound up with the rest of the service. There are copies of it in short score in CH CH Ox MS 1225, Ely Cath. MS 23, and Tenbury, all of late 17th or early 18th century date. As it is for the most part merely an extract from the Te Deum and all the texts are faulty, the editors feel justified in rejecting it." This is not to say a CPDL user might not find it handy someday! Richard Mix 18:54, 8 April 2011 (CDT)

Hymns

We now have all the 'Songs', most to more than one hymn. I attempted to sort them out at The Hymnes and Songs of the Church (George Wither) rather than on the composer page; some merging might be in order. Richard Mix (talk) 23:26, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Questions, need for cleanup

In the list of works by the composer Orlando Gibbons, there are individual pages for the “Magnificat” and “Nunc Dimittis” as sub-items of his “Second Service” — though the “Second Service” doesn’t actually have a page. I would like to upload the “Evening Service” (e.g. Magnificat AND Nunc dimittis) together as one document; (and in due course, the Morning Service (Te Deum and Jubilate). Compare with how things are set up for the “Short Service”. I’m afraid I don’t know how to edit the existing pages about without breaking something! – Ben Byram-Wigfield 16:50 7 October 2023

I have reorganized some lists on this page, and added a complete list of works at CPDL at bottom, to facilitate needed cleanup.

For example, the first five items in "English service music" (First Preces, Second Preces, Nicene Creed in F, Sanctus in F, and Te Deum) – do they belong somewhere else? One of the services, perhaps?

I will add pages for The Evening Service (Orlando Gibbons) and The Second Service (Orlando Gibbons) in a little while. It will be up to you or others more knowledgeable than I to add a movements list to each of these. — Barry Johnston (talk) 19:24, 7 October 2023 (UTC)