Talk:Missa annuntiate nobis (José de Torres)

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Corrected versions of the scores have now been uploaded, giving effect to all the suggestions below with the exception of the suggested g instead of b in bar 14 of the Gloria. The original does not seem to be a transcription error and the proposed change does not seem to work. In bar 24 of the same movement there is an implied suggestion to correct c to c#. This has been done. Jgoodliffe (talk) 10:29, 4 August 2012 (CDT)


The reason for the suggested changes/corrections has been abbreviated with the following keys.

  • ACC: accidentals were not always explicitly written in the scores. They have been added for various reasons:
  • ACC-MEL. for melodic reasons
  • ACC-ANA. in analogy to a similar phrase
  • ACC-UNI. for uniformity with another voice or instrument
  • ACC-FIN. for terminating in a major chord (optional)
  • ACC-HARM. for harmonic reasons
  • TRF transcription error from the manuscript
  • ERR error in the manuscript

1. Kyrie

  • T.15 Chor 2 Sopran: 1/4-Note instead of 1/2-Note (ERR-ANA)
  • T.30 g# instead of g (Chor 1 Alt, Vln 1) (ACC-FIN)
  • T.40 Chor 2 Sopran, 2. Note: g instead of f# (halbe Note) (TRF)
  • T.44 Chor 1 Tenor, 2.+3. Note : e instead of c (2x) (TRF)
  • T.45 Chor 1 Tenor, a (1/2-Note), 1/4 Pause, d (1/4-Note) (TRF)
  • T.46 Chor 1 Tenor, g g (2x 1/4-Note), 1/2 Pause (TRF)
  • T.47 Chor 1 Tenor, b(high) (3/4-Note) b(low), like previously T.46 (TRF)
  • T.48 Chor 1 Tenor. (ERR)
(The manuscript terminates the Christe with a double note; not with a single note as the other voices.)
  • T.48 g# instead of g (Chor 1 Alt, Vln 1, Vln 2, Ob) (ACC-FIN)
  • T.57 Chor 1 Alt: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.57 Chor 2 Alt: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.59 Vln 2: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.60 Ob: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.61 Chor 1 Alt: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.62 Chor 1 Alt: b instead of g (TRF)
  • T.63 Chor 2 Sopran: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.63 Chor 1 Alt: b instead of g (TRF)
  • T.64 Chor 2 Alt + Vln 2: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.65 Chor 1 Tenor: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.66 Chor 2 Bass: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.68 Chor 1 Sopran1: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.68 Chor 1 Sopran1 and Vln. 2: d# instead of d throughout (TRF)
  • T.69 g# instead of g (Chor 1 Alt, Vln 1, Chor 2 Sopran) (ACC-FIN)

2. Gloria

  • T.5 Chor 1 Alt: (ERR)
The manuscript has e g# a. (p.25).
These notes appear on the same lines as Sopran 2 (p.18) but with a different clef, leading to parallel fifths.
This is apparently a copying error.
A suggested replacement: f# b g
  • Z.12 Chor 2 Sopran a# instead of a (2x)? (ACC-ANA)
  • T.14 Chor 2 Bass, Org, Hp: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.14 Chor 2 Bass: g instead of b (TRF)
  • T.24 Chor 1 Alt: (ERR)
The manuscript has d b d. (p.25).
These notes appear on the same lines as Sopran 2 (p.18) but with a different clef, leading to parallel fifths, and a dissonance c#/d on the last beat.
This is apparently a copying error.
A suggested replacement: d a(high) f#
  • T.26 Chor 2 Sopran: 1/4-Note instead of 1/2-Note (ERR-ANA)
  • T.29 Chor 2 Sopran: f instead of f# (ACC)
  • T.40 Chor 1 Sopran2: f# instead of d (TRF)
  • T.41 Chor 1 Sopran2: g a instead of e f# (TRF)
  • T.75 Chor 1 Tenor: 4.+6. Note g instead of g# (2x, like in Org,Hp) (ACC-UNI)
(The Ms. has no natural)
  • T.82 Chor 2 Alt: d# instead of d (wie in Ob) (ACC-UNI)
  • T.85 Schlusstakt: g# instead of g (Chor 1 Alt, Chor 1 Sopran, Vln.1) (ACC-MEL)

3. Credo: Patrem omnipotentem

  • T.6 Chor 2 Tenor: e-c-c-c instead of e-e-e-c (?ERR-ANA)
  • T.46 Chor 1 Alt: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.47 Chor 1 Sopran2: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.48 Chor 2 Sopran + Vln 1: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.49 Chor 2 Alt: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.50 Chor 1 Tenor: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.51 Chor 2 Bass + Org: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.52 Chor 1 Alt: c# instead of c (2x) (ACC-MEL)
  • T.53 Chor 2 Tenor, Vln2: c# d# c# instead of c d c (?ACC-ANA)
(The analogous phrase in Alt 1 in T.52 has also no accidentals in the Ms.)
  • T.54 g# instead of g (Chor 1 Alt, Chor 2 Sopran, Vln 1) (ACC-FIN)

4. Credo: Et incarnatus

5. Credo: Crucifixus

  • T.6 Chor 2 Tenor. d instead of f# (TRF)
  • T.7 Chor 2 Tenor. c instead of e (4x), b instead of d (2x) (TRF)
  • T.17 Chor 1 Alt. c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)

6. Credo: Et resurrexit

  • T.8 Chor 1 Tenor c# d# instead of c d (ACC-HARM)
  • T.57 Chor 2 Bass,Org+Hp: b instead of c (TRF)

7. Credo: Et in spiritum sanctum

  • T.10 Chor 1, Alt: g instead of g# (ACC-MEL)
  • T.11 Chor 2, Alt: g instead of g# (ACC-MEL)
  • T.14 Chor 2, Bass: g instead of b (TRF)
  • T.16 Chor 2, Bass: g instead of b (TRF)
  • T.45 g# instead of g (Chor 1 Sopran2, Chor 2 Sopran, Vln 1) (ACC-FIN)

8. Sanctus

  • T.8 Org+H: a d instead of f# b (TRF)
  • T.38 Chor 2, Tenor: d# instead of d (TRF)
  • T.38 Vln.1+2: d# c# instead of d c (ACC-HARM)
  • T.41 Chor 1, Sopran: b instead of c (?ERR, for harmonic reasons)

9. Agnus Dei

  • T.5 Chor 1, Sopran 2: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.6 Chor 1, Alt: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.7 Chor 2, Bass + Org: d# instead of d (TRF)
  • T.8 Chor 2, Alt: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.9 Chor 2, Alt: c# instead of c (ACC-MEL)
  • T.13 Chor 1, Sopran1: f# instead of f (TRF)
  • T.13 Chor 1, Tenor: f# instead of f (TRF)
  • T.13 Org+H: f# instead of g (ERR/TRF)
(error in the organ score; the harp has f#)
  • T.18 Chor 1, Sopran2: g# instead of g (TRF)

Rote 13:25, 24 January 2012 (CST)